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FYROM's Bulgarian Connection; Macedonian Bulgarians

Postby toofunkyniki » 14 Aug 2008, 10:11

BULGARIAN, NOT 'MACEDONIAN"!

Lyubomir Miletich (Bulgarian: Любомир Милетич) (14 January 1863 – 1 June 1937) was a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian, as well as the chairman of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences from 1926 to his death.

Born in Štip, today in the Republic of Macedonia, Miletich finished the Zagreb Secondary School for Classical Education in 1882 and graduated in Slavistics from the University of Zagreb and University of Prague. Miletich participated in the foundation of Sofia University in 1888. He became a Ph.D. of philology and Slavic philology of the University of Zagreb in July 1889 and went on to become the dean of the university's Faculty of History and Philology during the 1903-04 academic year. During the 1900-01 and 1921-22, he was the rector of the University of Zagreb.

Since 1898, Miletich was a member of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, which it presided from 1926 until his death. Similarly, he was the chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich was a doctor honoris causa of the Kharkiv University, Ukraine, a corresponding member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, as well of the Ukrainian Historical Society, the Polish Academy of Learning, the South Slavic Academy of Sciences, the Czech Academy of Sciences, the Czech Scientific Society and the Czech Ethnographic Society, the Hungarian Ethnographic Society and the Ukrainian Archaeological Institute.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.

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The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913


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The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913"
(in Bulgarian "Разорението на тракийските българи през 1913 година")


is a book, published by Bulgarian academician Lyubomir Miletich in 1918, which describes the mass extermination and ethnic cleansing, caused to the Bulgarian population in Eastern Thrace and Eastern Rhodope Mountains (now mainly in Edirne Province, Kırklareli Province and Tekirdağ Province in Turkey and in Evros Prefecture in Greece) during the Second Balkan War and in a short period after it. Whеn the military actions between Serbia, Greece, Montenegro and Romania against Bulgaria were in full progress, the Ottoman Empire took advantage of the situation to recover some of its former possessions in Thrace including Adrianople. In the beginning of July 1913 its forces crossed the Bulgarian border on the line Midiya-Enos, settled by the Treaty of London in May 1913. Because the Bulgarian troops had all been allocated to the front with Serbia and Greece, the Ottoman armies suffered no combat casualties and moved northwards and westwards without heavy battles. Thus reoccupied territories were given back to the Ottoman Empire by the Treaty of Constantinople, signed on September 16. Despite that, the mass extermination and ethnic cleansing continued in the areas, regained by the Ottomans, even after this date. Shortly after the end of the hostilities the author interviewed hundreds of refugees from these regions, travelled himself in the places where these tragic events happened and systematically depicted in detail the atrocities, made from the Young Turks' regular army, Ottoman paramilitary forces and partly from local Greeks. As a result of this violent process approximately 200,000 Bulgarians were killed or forced to leave their homes and properties forever, seeking salvation in territories, controlled by Bulgarian army and paramilitary formation IMORO. The entire community of the Thracian Bulgarians in these regions, where they were relative ethnic majority before the Balkan wars, was wiped out. Their inheritors in contemporary Bulgaria are about 800,000 people.

The legal property rights of the expelled Thracian Bulgarians were recognized fully by the Republic of Turkey through the Treaty of Angora (Ankara), signed on October 18 1925, which have been never denounced or enforced too.[1] Today, almost one century after 1913, the heirs of the Bulgarian refugees aren't compensated yet.[2] In September 2007 Evgeni Kirilov, Bulgarian deputy in the European Parliament, proposed an amendment to the resolution concerning the EU-Turkish relations, which refers to the ownership of the Thracian Bulgarians and the obligations of Turkish authorities according to the Treaty of Angora.


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Re: FYROM's Bulgarian Connection; Macedonian Bulgarians

Postby Filip_SF » 14 Aug 2008, 10:49

toofunkyniki wrote:BULGARIAN, NOT 'MACEDONIAN"!

Lyubomir Miletich (Bulgarian: Любомир Милетич) (14 January 1863 – 1 June 1937) was a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian, as well as the chairman of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences from 1926 to his death.

Born in Štip, today in the Republic of Macedonia, Miletich finished the Zagreb Secondary School for Classical Education in 1882 and graduated in Slavistics from the University of Zagreb and University of Prague. Miletich participated in the foundation of Sofia University in 1888. He became a Ph.D. of philology and Slavic philology of the University of Zagreb in July 1889 and went on to become the dean of the university's Faculty of History and Philology during the 1903-04 academic year. During the 1900-01 and 1921-22, he was the rector of the University of Zagreb.

Since 1898, Miletich was a member of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, which it presided from 1926 until his death. Similarly, he was the chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich was a doctor honoris causa of the Kharkiv University, Ukraine, a corresponding member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, as well of the Ukrainian Historical Society, the Polish Academy of Learning, the South Slavic Academy of Sciences, the Czech Academy of Sciences, the Czech Scientific Society and the Czech Ethnographic Society, the Hungarian Ethnographic Society and the Ukrainian Archaeological Institute.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.

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See also
The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913


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The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913"
(in Bulgarian "Разорението на тракийските българи през 1913 година")


is a book, published by Bulgarian academician Lyubomir Miletich in 1918, which describes the mass extermination and ethnic cleansing, caused to the Bulgarian population in Eastern Thrace and Eastern Rhodope Mountains (now mainly in Edirne Province, Kırklareli Province and Tekirdağ Province in Turkey and in Evros Prefecture in Greece) during the Second Balkan War and in a short period after it. Whеn the military actions between Serbia, Greece, Montenegro and Romania against Bulgaria were in full progress, the Ottoman Empire took advantage of the situation to recover some of its former possessions in Thrace including Adrianople. In the beginning of July 1913 its forces crossed the Bulgarian border on the line Midiya-Enos, settled by the Treaty of London in May 1913. Because the Bulgarian troops had all been allocated to the front with Serbia and Greece, the Ottoman armies suffered no combat casualties and moved northwards and westwards without heavy battles. Thus reoccupied territories were given back to the Ottoman Empire by the Treaty of Constantinople, signed on September 16. Despite that, the mass extermination and ethnic cleansing continued in the areas, regained by the Ottomans, even after this date. Shortly after the end of the hostilities the author interviewed hundreds of refugees from these regions, travelled himself in the places where these tragic events happened and systematically depicted in detail the atrocities, made from the Young Turks' regular army, Ottoman paramilitary forces and partly from local Greeks. As a result of this violent process approximately 200,000 Bulgarians were killed or forced to leave their homes and properties forever, seeking salvation in territories, controlled by Bulgarian army and paramilitary formation IMORO. The entire community of the Thracian Bulgarians in these regions, where they were relative ethnic majority before the Balkan wars, was wiped out. Their inheritors in contemporary Bulgaria are about 800,000 people.

The legal property rights of the expelled Thracian Bulgarians were recognized fully by the Republic of Turkey through the Treaty of Angora (Ankara), signed on October 18 1925, which have been never denounced or enforced too.[1] Today, almost one century after 1913, the heirs of the Bulgarian refugees aren't compensated yet.[2] In September 2007 Evgeni Kirilov, Bulgarian deputy in the European Parliament, proposed an amendment to the resolution concerning the EU-Turkish relations, which refers to the ownership of the Thracian Bulgarians and the obligations of Turkish authorities according to the Treaty of Angora.


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Being idiot again, ha. First of all his last name is MiletiCH, that kind of last name SERBIANS and CROATIANS have, So his father or grandfather must have been Serbian or Croatian. I have never, ever met a bulgarian with that kind of last name. So your logic is: he was born in Shtip, has a last name that is Serbian and that means he's Bulgarian :? :? WOOOW What an IDIOT
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Re: FYROM's Bulgarian Connection; Macedonian Bulgarians

Postby toofunkyniki » 14 Aug 2008, 11:06

Filip_SF wrote:

Being idiot again, ha. First of all his last name is MiletiCH, that kind of last name SERBIANS and CROATIANS have, So his father or grandfather must have been Serbian or Croatian. I have never, ever met a bulgarian with that kind of last name. So your logic is: he was born in Shtip, has a last name that is Serbian and that means he's Bulgarian :? :? WOOOW What an IDIOT


perhaps, you are the idiot. Judgement Day will open your eyes to that.

so typical of FYROM to point out only one side of the coin, the one, which suits them and drives them away from Bulgaria.

there are thousands of "-ich" ending names in bulgaria.

you mentioned his father. why did you not mention his mother? perhaps, his mother was a macedonian bulgarian. provided he was serbian, why did he not live in belgrade and why was he writing about bulgarian issues, and not serbian.

here it goes once again, for those with limited minds. note the repeated word BULGARIA, and NOT MACEDONIAN or serbian.

a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937
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Postby Filip_SF » 14 Aug 2008, 11:20

a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.
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Postby toofunkyniki » 14 Aug 2008, 11:29

Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


the same applies to macedonists. macedonists are using speculations.

that is your problem, what you believe or not. i am related to macedonia (my relatives were thrown out of debar for not denying bulgarian origin). i have a voice, too. yours, is not the only truth about macedonia, so you cannot be universally validating. i am sorry, my dear, but your little state has a very serious problem. with simple words, which silly limited fyromians like to use all the time, you are in big shit.

i have proven much more in my over 400 post here. read them all and prove me wrong. however, the only thing you can do is turn the coin but give no universally validatin evidence, because you are not the only 'macedonian' that exist. there are greek macedonians and there are bulgarian macedonians (and here i do not mean pirin at all but the hundreds of thousands bulgarian macedonian refugees who came to bulgaria, who's descendents in bulgaria today are in the millions).
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Postby Filip_SF » 14 Aug 2008, 11:40

toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


the same applies to macedonists. macedonists are using speculations.

that is your problem, what you believe or not. i am related to macedonia (my relatives were thrown out of debar for not denying bulgarian origin). i have a voice, too. yours, is not the only truth about macedonia, so you cannot be universally validating. i am sorry, my dear, but your little state has a very serious problem. with simple words, which silly limited fyromians like to use all the time, you are in big shit.

i have proven much more in my over 400 post here. read them all and prove me wrong. however, the only thing you can do is turn the coin but give no universally validatin evidence, because you are not the only 'macedonian' that exist. there are greek macedonians and there are bulgarian macedonians (and here i do not mean pirin at all but the hundreds of thousands bulgarian macedonian refugees who came to bulgaria, who's descendents in bulgaria today are in the millions).


You posts are copy paste, and copy paste of the copy pasted. And what did you prove? NOTHING. I am still Macedonian and you are still a Bulgarian idiot. If I wait for some one like you to prove WHO I AM. I would rather shoot myself. I said once on this forum that NO ONE IS PROVING ANYTHING ON THIS FORUM. We are all just having fun. How can I take you seriously about Boris Traykovski, you barely know anything about him. We always considered you Bulgarians as idiots, and that's why no one takes you seriously except your Greek friends who would like to hear anything that is against us.
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FYROM's Bulgarian Connection

Postby toofunkyniki » 14 Aug 2008, 12:34

Filip_SF wrote:
toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


the same applies to macedonists. macedonists are using speculations.

that is your problem, what you believe or not. i am related to macedonia (my relatives were thrown out of debar for not denying bulgarian origin). i have a voice, too. yours, is not the only truth about macedonia, so you cannot be universally validating. i am sorry, my dear, but your little state has a very serious problem. with simple words, which silly limited fyromians like to use all the time, you are in big shit.

i have proven much more in my over 400 post here. read them all and prove me wrong. however, the only thing you can do is turn the coin but give no universally validatin evidence, because you are not the only 'macedonian' that exist. there are greek macedonians and there are bulgarian macedonians (and here i do not mean pirin at all but the hundreds of thousands bulgarian macedonian refugees who came to bulgaria, who's descendents in bulgaria today are in the millions).


You posts are copy paste, and copy paste of the copy pasted. And what did you prove? NOTHING. I am still Macedonian and you are still a Bulgarian idiot. If I wait for some one like you to prove WHO I AM. I would rather shoot myself. I said once on this forum that NO ONE IS PROVING ANYTHING ON THIS FORUM. We are all just having fun. How can I take you seriously about Boris Traykovski, you barely know anything about him. We always considered you Bulgarians as idiots, and that's why no one takes you seriously except your Greek friends who would like to hear anything that is against us.


i know you are macedonian. now we have three macedonians here. one says he is macedonian macedonian. the other - greek macedonian. the third - bulgarian macedonian. something is wrong, my dear. you can consider me an idiot - that is your free choice. this does not bother me.

you still have not proven me wrong. repeating my words are nothing does not cancel the numerous facts and living evidence FYROM was bulgarian (in the over 400 of posts of mine here). i reapeat it again and again, because you omit it again and again. my relatives came from debar (macedonia) - they were thrown out of fyrom, because they did not deny they were bulgarian. those tortured and those who have seen macedonian bulgarians being murdered for not denying bulgarian origin are still living.

if you are macedonian and come from fyrom and they are bulgarian and come from fyrom, what the heck is this little place fyrom. wrongland or what!?

you are here for fun, you say. i am left with the impression macedonists are for fun, too.

but we all know life is not fun at all and a moment will come the fund will end.

TRY AGAIN.
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Re: FYROM's Bulgarian Connection

Postby Filip_SF » 14 Aug 2008, 13:39

toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


the same applies to macedonists. macedonists are using speculations.

that is your problem, what you believe or not. i am related to macedonia (my relatives were thrown out of debar for not denying bulgarian origin). i have a voice, too. yours, is not the only truth about macedonia, so you cannot be universally validating. i am sorry, my dear, but your little state has a very serious problem. with simple words, which silly limited fyromians like to use all the time, you are in big shit.

i have proven much more in my over 400 post here. read them all and prove me wrong. however, the only thing you can do is turn the coin but give no universally validatin evidence, because you are not the only 'macedonian' that exist. there are greek macedonians and there are bulgarian macedonians (and here i do not mean pirin at all but the hundreds of thousands bulgarian macedonian refugees who came to bulgaria, who's descendents in bulgaria today are in the millions).


You posts are copy paste, and copy paste of the copy pasted. And what did you prove? NOTHING. I am still Macedonian and you are still a Bulgarian idiot. If I wait for some one like you to prove WHO I AM. I would rather shoot myself. I said once on this forum that NO ONE IS PROVING ANYTHING ON THIS FORUM. We are all just having fun. How can I take you seriously about Boris Traykovski, you barely know anything about him. We always considered you Bulgarians as idiots, and that's why no one takes you seriously except your Greek friends who would like to hear anything that is against us.


i know you are macedonian. now we have three macedonians here. one says he is macedonian macedonian. the other - greek macedonian. the third - bulgarian macedonian. something is wrong, my dear. you can consider me an idiot - that is your free choice. this does not bother me.

you still have not proven me wrong. repeating my words are nothing does not cancel the numerous facts and living evidence FYROM was bulgarian (in the over 400 of posts of mine here). i reapeat it again and again, because you omit it again and again. my relatives came from debar (macedonia) - they were thrown out of fyrom, because they did not deny they were bulgarian. those tortured and those who have seen macedonian bulgarians being murdered for not denying bulgarian origin are still living.

if you are macedonian and come from fyrom and they are bulgarian and come from fyrom, what the heck is this little place fyrom. wrongland or what!?

you are here for fun, you say. i am left with the impression macedonists are for fun, too.

but we all know life is not fun at all and a moment will come the fund will end.

TRY AGAIN.

:D :D :D :D Man there is no end with you. What should I try again? You think that you said something smart and you beat me in my posts? I'm laughing my ass of when i read your(you think intelligent posts). The truth is that you are not an objective person and see only the things as you wish. The post about Boris Traykovski proves tthat. You post stuff only whats in your head. Boris wasn't your president he was ours, I believe we know much more about him than you. For example he brought us closer to America because he saw that there was no way to loby us in Europe cause Greece politics was way deep in there, which is normal.
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Re: FYROM's Bulgarian Connection

Postby toofunkyniki » 14 Aug 2008, 14:58

Filip_SF wrote:[
:D :D :D :D Man there is no end with you. What should I try again? You think that you said something smart and you beat me in my posts? I'm laughing my ass of when i read your(you think intelligent posts). The truth is that you are not an objective person and see only the things as you wish. The post about Boris Traykovski proves tthat. You post stuff only whats in your head. Boris wasn't your president he was ours, I believe we know much more about him than you. For example he brought us closer to America because he saw that there was no way to loby us in Europe cause Greece politics was way deep in there, which is normal.


Man, there is no end with you. What should I try again? You think that you have said something smart and you have beaten my posts? I am laughing my ass off when i read your (you think smart/ funny) posts. The truth is that you are not an objective and see only the things as you wish.
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Postby LITTLE DONKEY » 15 Aug 2008, 14:13

Something interesting:

The Rainbow received much criticism when former members of the party, Nicolas Stoyanov (Stoidis) and Done Katsorov (Katsoris), left to party to become leaders of the organization Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia, instead claiming to represent a Bulgarian minority of Greece.They also changed their surnames from Greek to Bulgarian.Remaining members of the party retain Greek[2] names and surnames.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_(political_party)

Guys, make a decision about what you really are! :lol:
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Postby toofunkyniki » 15 Aug 2008, 14:25

LITTLE DONKEY wrote:Something interesting:

[b][i]The Rainbow received much criticism when former members of the party, Nicolas Stoyanov (Stoidis) and Done Katsorov (Katsoris), left to party to become leaders of the organization Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia, instead claiming to represent a Bulgarian minority of Greece.They also changed their surnames from Greek to Bulgarian.Remaining members of the party retain Greek[2] names and surnames.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_(political_party)

Guys, make a decision about what you really are! :lol:


sevharisto.

there you go!
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FYROM lost in space

Postby toofunkyniki » 15 Aug 2008, 16:03

Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


following your abovementioned logic, the fyromacedonian who arranged the greek nazi exhibition in skopie (picture below) is bulgarian. very interesting. or you are jost lost in space again :)

toofunkyniki wrote:Image

note the name on the upper right corner of the poster. the name is bulgarian. botev is a typical bulgarian name. the same as of the great bulgarian poet and revolutionary hristo botev.

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Columbia Encyclopedia: Botev, Khristo
(khrĭs'tō bô'tĕf) , 1848–76, Bulgarian poet and patriot. At 17, Botev was sent to Ukraine, where he became enamored of socialist doctrine. He sought to promote revolution against the Ottoman domination and was killed in action leading a band of his own organizing. His few lyrics and ballads are filled with patriotic fervor. English translations of his work appear as Khristo Botev Selections (1948) and Poems (1955).

http://www.answers.com/topic/hristo-botev

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Re: FYROM lost in space

Postby Filip_SF » 15 Aug 2008, 18:03

toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


following your abovementioned logic, the fyromacedonian who arranged the greek nazi exhibition in skopie (picture below) is bulgarian. very interesting. or you are jost lost in space again :)

toofunkyniki wrote:Image

note the name on the upper right corner of the poster. the name is bulgarian. botev is a typical bulgarian name. the same as of the great bulgarian poet and revolutionary hristo botev.

Image

Columbia Encyclopedia: Botev, Khristo
(khrĭs'tō bô'tĕf) , 1848–76, Bulgarian poet and patriot. At 17, Botev was sent to Ukraine, where he became enamored of socialist doctrine. He sought to promote revolution against the Ottoman domination and was killed in action leading a band of his own organizing. His few lyrics and ballads are filled with patriotic fervor. English translations of his work appear as Khristo Botev Selections (1948) and Poems (1955).

http://www.answers.com/topic/hristo-botev

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Why don't you tell him that.
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Re: FYROM lost in space

Postby toofunkyniki » 15 Aug 2008, 18:05

Filip_SF wrote:
toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


following your abovementioned logic, the fyromacedonian who arranged the greek nazi exhibition in skopie (picture below) is bulgarian. very interesting. or you are jost lost in space again :)

toofunkyniki wrote:Image

note the name on the upper right corner of the poster. the name is bulgarian. botev is a typical bulgarian name. the same as of the great bulgarian poet and revolutionary hristo botev.

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Columbia Encyclopedia: Botev, Khristo
(khrĭs'tō bô'tĕf) , 1848–76, Bulgarian poet and patriot. At 17, Botev was sent to Ukraine, where he became enamored of socialist doctrine. He sought to promote revolution against the Ottoman domination and was killed in action leading a band of his own organizing. His few lyrics and ballads are filled with patriotic fervor. English translations of his work appear as Khristo Botev Selections (1948) and Poems (1955).

http://www.answers.com/topic/hristo-botev

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Why don't you tell him that.


your statement did not answer my question. are you cought wrong by your own logic, filipcho?
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Re: FYROM lost in space

Postby Filip_SF » 15 Aug 2008, 18:14

toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
toofunkyniki wrote:
Filip_SF wrote:
a leading Bulgarian linguist, ethnographer, dialectologist and historian

participated in the foundation of Sofia University, Bulgaria in 1888

chairman of the Bulgarian Macedonian Scientific Institute from 1927 to his death.

Miletich died in Sofia on 1 June 1937.


That still doesn't proves your point. He was a linguist, etnographer, historian in Bulgaria, but he was born in Macedonia. I mentioned his father, yes, because we all get our fathers last names, not mothers. And by using the word "PERHAPS" means that you are using a speculation not a fact. Also if there are thousands of "ich" last names in Bulgaria that still means that they have a SERBIAN background. Or your logic is if you say that they are Bulgarians than they really are.


following your abovementioned logic, the fyromacedonian who arranged the greek nazi exhibition in skopie (picture below) is bulgarian. very interesting. or you are jost lost in space again :)

toofunkyniki wrote:Image

note the name on the upper right corner of the poster. the name is bulgarian. botev is a typical bulgarian name. the same as of the great bulgarian poet and revolutionary hristo botev.

Image

Columbia Encyclopedia: Botev, Khristo
(khrĭs'tō bô'tĕf) , 1848–76, Bulgarian poet and patriot. At 17, Botev was sent to Ukraine, where he became enamored of socialist doctrine. He sought to promote revolution against the Ottoman domination and was killed in action leading a band of his own organizing. His few lyrics and ballads are filled with patriotic fervor. English translations of his work appear as Khristo Botev Selections (1948) and Poems (1955).

http://www.answers.com/topic/hristo-botev

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Why don't you tell him that.


your statement did not answer my question. are you cought wrong by your own logic, filipcho?


Your didn't ask any question. All you did is that you found a last name from Macedonia same as a last name from Bulgaria. I can find the same thing in Russia. And yet what did you prove.... NOTHING
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